Hoover-Alpha Juno 2

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:51 pm

ive been working on this sound with reFX Vanguard, I got it perfect. I was thinkin D16 could do a VST of it

i know nothing about programming lol. but somehow i could help.

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:13 pm

could I get your sound for reFX Vanguard?

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:49 pm

sure, i'll post it up. what do you use, Live? or Cubase? or what?
you'll have to run it through a heavy chorus.

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edit: im having problems with my .mac. give me some time.

Acidhead · Post by **Acidhead** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:29 pm

tguzzardo wrote:you'll have to run it through a heavy chorus.

Right, the chorus accounts for about half the fatness of any Alpha Juno sound.

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:11 pm

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:31 pm

THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE ATM!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/21 ... Hoover.mp3

CosmicD · Post by **CosmicD** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:38 pm

maybe the rate and the phase of the chorus should be a bit deeper/faster still, but the timbre is near perfect

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:30 am

CosmicD wrote:maybe the rate and the phase of the chorus should be a bit deeper/faster still, but the timbre is near perfect

thx :] do u use live? if so we can send the project back and forth. also keep in mind that this is a 14 year old

usually people go crazy when I tell them my age.

Acidhead · Post by **Acidhead** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:25 am

@tguzzardo:
Getting warm, but not hot yet.
Now also add some white noise, and then stack 6 of those on top of each other, with free-running oscillators or slightly offset starting times (like MKS-50 chord mode).
For fx: add some gain, lower lo and hi eq, raise mid eq and sweep it back and forth, feed it through some reverb & delay and you've got classic hoovercraft...

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:36 am

Acidhead wrote:@tguzzardo:
Getting warm, but not hot yet.
Now also add some white noise, and then stack 6 of those on top of each other, with free-running oscillators or slightly offset starting times (like MKS-50 chord mode).
For fx: add some gain, lower lo and hi eq, raise mid eq and sweep it back and forth, feed it through some reverb & delay and you've got classic hoovercraft...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/21 ... er%201.mp3
kinda like that?

Acidhead · Post by **Acidhead** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:41 am

yeah, kinda

CosmicD · Post by **CosmicD** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:41 am

hmm, i don't think the phazer effect really belongs to the original hoover sound though...

and theres

I've made several on the virus who are close but always resemble the way they ended up as samples in tracks and then they are distorted again..

I really think if you want to approximate the real thing, you need to listen to mentasm's second phase, and dominator songs. The "insomniac" remix was one of the first where the samples started to be "altered" already

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:05 pm

never heard.

CosmicD · Post by **CosmicD** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:10 am

those were the first "hoover sound" tracks out there. There's discussion about who was first, mentasm or dominator.. I thought I knew dominator in 91 already, and it has a long pitch envelope curve and a long sustain, while the mentasm sound goes all over the place pitchwise..

Dominator couldn't have sampled from mentasm imo, because in that song there's not the same long pitch envelope,

Maybe they shared patches. I'm sure those went around back at the time ?

tguzzardo · Post by **tguzzardo** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:53 am

im not sure. i have mentasm on 12"
, but what is this other track?