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Audio Units for all D16 Plug Ins

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:41 pm
by earlgreen
Hello everyone,
it might be the wrong place to post, but are you guys working on AU plugs for your products?
I would like to buy the tripple pack but as a Logic user it is not possible so far.
I would be glad for answere!!
Cheers
Kai

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:55 pm
by Sebastian@d16
Hi,

Yes. Still working on them.

The AU versions won't be ready at once (3 instruments), first in a row Nepheton is comming, the second one will be Drumazon and as the last; Phoscyon will appear.

Best regards,
Sebastian

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:27 pm
by frederic heim
What is the difference betwen vst & AU ?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:19 pm
by Custa
frederic heim wrote:What is the difference betwen vst & AU ?
About 2 years ;) Seriously though it is just a plugin format native on Mac OS and the only one that Logic uses (without jumping though hoops that don't really work)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:34 am
by earlgreen
Hi Sebastian,
thanks for imediate answer!!
That be killer!!!
I am gonna be pationed and will purchace as soon as you guys get to it.
Just take your time for programming to fix the best!!!
Looking forward to it!
Cheers
Kai

Sebastian@d16 wrote:Hi,

Yes. Still working on them.

The AU versions won't be ready at once (3 instruments), first in a row Nepheton is comming, the second one will be Drumazon and as the last; Phoscyon will appear.

Best regards,
Sebastian

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:47 am
by earlgreen
Just 2 diffrent 'Schnittstellen' interfaces on WIN or Mac OS systems.

That's what I heared:
When Apple bought Logic from eMagic they refused to pay license fees to Steinberg to feature VSTi interface in Logic. (later than version 5.5).
The AU interface is sort of the same as VSTi but only used for Logic plugs.
Other interfaces are e.g. RATAS or DirectX.

VSTi can be used on Mac in diffrent programms as KORE or Live, but not inside Logic. Heared of some way to make Logic compatible to VSTi but should not work stable.

I do not know anything about the difference in programming of the two interfaces.

Hope this helped a litte.
frederic heim wrote:What is the difference betwen vst & AU ?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:24 am
by Sebastian@d16
Hi,

Developers always try to make both versions look the same. But interior of AU and VSTi is completely different. The purpose of both technologies is the same. I assume Apple did so to assure themselves full compatibility with their host (Logic), to avoid the problems of writing properly working VST host - there's no specification at all - only now when VST3 has been revealed, it contains, apart from plug-in specification also host's specification. Additionally AU and VST differ eachother with few features. EG. AU has multiple audio input (which makes side chaining easily to do), VST has midi out (AU has it only since Leopard 10.5).

Best regards,
Sebastian

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:17 am
by mitchk1989
motu's digital performer uses AU as well, btw, and any mac host worth owning will host AUs as well as VSTs (live, bidule, etc.).

VST only hosts on mac are not very common. There's steinberg (who developed the VST standard) and traktion...

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:34 am
by earlgreen
Hey everybody,
are you guys still working on the AU version of your plugs?

Is there any timetable to let us know about this topic?
I'd be pleased for an answere.
cheers
Kai

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:32 am
by Sebastian@d16
Hi,

Once again sorry for delay, Nepheton is still under development, since we've started with VST and knew nothing about existence of AU, so source code was written in very monolithic way. We had to switch to new programming framework, which allows us to make more transparent code (considering technology; AU, VST, RTAS). We needed to replace almost 70% of code. Nepheton will appear first and shorlty after it Drumazon - because internal structure of instrument is very similar - I mean sequencer and preset management. Phoscyon will be the last one and it requires to be changed a lot (about 90% of source code).

Best regards,
Sebastian

Any news?!

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:52 pm
by ultramike
Just checking in to see if there is any news on the arrival on your AU versions yet?

I am being patient but I really want to use your plugs in Logic!!

Cheers!

Re: Any news?!

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:32 am
by ostiknostis
ultramike wrote:Just checking in to see if there is any news on the arrival on your AU versions yet?

I am being patient but I really want to use your plugs in Logic!!

Cheers!
You'll need to be more patient, I'm afraid.. Nepheton AU is well under way but I have no idea how long the devcycle on that will last. But do not abandon hope!

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:23 am
by Sebastian@d16
Hi,

Frist Nepheton beta is already released for our Customers only, and next beta will be released this week. It'll include fixed chunk saving with Logic (internal patterns saving).

Best regards,
Sebastian

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:10 pm
by ultramike
Thanks for the update. I'm excited!!

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:26 pm
by ultramike
I have to say that these drum machines are awesome! I have been using the demos in Live while I wait for the AU versions and I am really excited to get them. I am trying to be patient and I am thrilled that they are coming to AU. Thanks so much!!