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Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby division » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:34 pm

Oh guys, you've forgotten to add the noise generated by these old tape delays.
This thing sounds so awfully clean!
I was rally looking forward to the release of this plugin, but now I'm really disappointed.
And BTW: Why isn't it possible to change the model type by a parameter!?
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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby Sebastian@d16 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:38 pm

Hi,

We focused on sound character only, not the side effects like crackles, dirt and hiss. These always can be added in post-processing.

As for the Model parameter, do you mean the automation?

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby division » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:48 pm

Hi Sebastian,

yes I'm missing the automation of the used model. I'm focused only on Push 2 and MIDI controllers in my Ableton Live setup.
I don't what to touch the mouse and watch the screen during jamming.

That you haven't added the side effects is really a pity. The soul and character of these old machines is completely lost.
It sounds like a delay with a simple multi band equalizer in the feedback path.

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby Sebastian@d16 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:47 am

Hi,

Selecting Model momentarily increases CPU load of the plug-in and makes some "drastic" changes in the plug-in's guts, that can lead to the occasional unpleasant audible artifacts when sound's processed. We just didn't want to give the idea this parameter could be changed while playing a song by excluding it from automatable parameters.

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby division » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:08 pm

Hi Sebastian,

I have noticed the glitches while changing the model.
I know the internal buffers have to be resetted, coefficients have to be initialized, etc. but I think that's okay!
When I change the delay type of external effekt processors it does the same.
Or have a look at all the reverb plugins that create artefacts while changing room sizes.
That's totaly okay, when it's depends on the way the plugin works.
The only thing that matters is that it's assignable to automation.

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby Sebastian@d16 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:31 am

Hi,

In the approach we take on our plug-ins automation is strictly for changing parameters live, but we could add Selecting Model as one of parameters for MIDI Learn option. Would it be sufficient for using with Push?
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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby division » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:38 pm

Hi Sebastian,

for using with Push it should be a regular parameter like all other parameters.

BTW:
Don't you have a Ableton Push 2 - Controller?? If not I really suggest you to get one and get an idea of what it could do especially to all of your X0X-Plugins.
It's the missing link between your hands and your plugins.

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby Sebastian@d16 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:22 pm

Hi Gerd,

I'm sorry, but despite our urge to posses all the gear there's it's not enough room at our HQ to gather it all together I'm afraid. So simply speaking we don't have Push :)

Ok, so the Delay Model should be regular automatable parameter, got it. Will consult it with the dev team and if they approve the suggestion will add it as ToDo for upcoming update.

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Re: Where's the grit, dirt, noise, ...

Postby division » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:48 pm

HI Sebastian,

that are really great news!
Thank you! :-)

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